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.서울에서 맛본 막걸리.

.요리Story. : 2011/10/25 14:12
Tag 국순당, 막걸리, 배상면주가, 배혜정도가, 전통주
요즘 막걸리의 유행으로 홍대나 강남일대에는 고급스러운 와인바처럼 막걸리바가 등장하고 있습니다. 최근에 방문했던 역삼동 안방이라는 곳도 막걸리의 고급화를 물씬 느낄 수 있는 곳이었습니다.

식당에서 부담없이 쉽게 접하게 되는 장수 막걸리에서부터, 구하기 힘든 지평막걸리까지 짧은 기간이지만, 한병씩 새로운 막걸리를 마셔보고 느낀 점을 정리해 보았습니다.

개인적으로는 지평, 덕산, 느린마을, 우국생 정도가 좋은거 같고, 프리미엄 막걸리인 배혜정도가의 부자 막걸리도 한번 시도해 보고 싶네요..
(덕산은 아직 먹어보지 못했지만, 평가가 매우 좋네요.)

  
[역삼동 '안방' 막걸리 바]

생 막걸리 : 막걸리에 살아있는 효모가 그대로 들어 있어서, 1~5일 이내 먹는 것이 좋음. 시간이 지날수록 맛이 달라지지만, 당연히 막걸리라면 생 막걸리!

살균 막걸리 : 살균 처리로 살아있는 효모가 없기 때문에 맛이 변하지 않고 장기간 유통할 수 있음. 



#1. 서울 장수 막걸리
서울에서 가장 흔하고, 가장 많이 마시는 막걸리입니다. 식당에서 막걸리 주문하면 장수 막걸리가 나올확률 99%이죠. 신맛과 탄산이 조금 쎈편이지만, 전반적으로 괜찮은 맛을 내기때문에 무난하게 마실 수 있습니다. 뭐 그렇다고 정말 맛 좋은데라는 느낌은 그다지 들지 않습니다.

#2. 지평 막걸리
양평 지평리에 있는 1925년에 설립된 우리나라에서 가장 오래 된 양조장에서 만드는 지평 막걸리.
 
인공적이지 않은 자연스러운 탄산은 입안을 감돌며 목넘김이 부드럽고, 맛은 살짝 단맛과 술맛이 적절히 어우러져 최고의 밸런스를 갖춘 막걸리입니다.
서울에 판매하는 곳이 많지 않은거 같습니다. 지평 막걸리 판매장에 주문해서 택배로 받아볼 수 있습니다. 여태까지 먹어 본 막걸리 중에서 개인적으로 최고입니다.

#3. 덕산 막걸리
충북 진천의 세왕주조의 덕산 막걸리는 1929년에 설립된 양조장에서 만들고 있고, 맛으로 치자면, 지평막걸리보다 한 수 위라는 평가를 받고 있습니다. 아직 맛을 본적은 없지만, 꼭 마셔보고 싶은 막걸리입니다.

#4. 부산 금정산성 막걸리
부산지역에서 꽤 유명한 막걸리가 금정산성 막걸리입니다. 맛 자체는 좋은데, 하필이면 지평 막걸리를 마시고 먹게되서, 맛이 너무 떨어지게 느껴졌습니다.

#5. 느린마을 막걸리
배상면주가의 100% 쌀 생막걸리로, 옛날 마을마다 있던 양조장에서 갓 담근 막걸리를 마시던 것에 착안하여, 서울 여기저기에 양조장을 짓고 있습니다.

느린마을 막걸리는 무엇보다 100% 국내산 쌀과 누룩으로만 술을 빚고, 아스파탐과 같은 인공 감미료를 전혀 첨가하지 않은 소비자 입장에서 만든 막걸리입니다. (느린마을 막걸리처럼 인공감미료 아스파탐을 첨가하지 않은 막걸리는 시중에서 찾아보기 어렵습니다)
만든 첫날에는 우유같다는 평가도 있고, 하루 이틀 지날수록 탄산이 증가합니다. 전반적으로 느린마을 막걸리는 추천하는 사람이 많습니다. 서울에 위치한 6곳의 양조장에서 그날 만든 막걸리를 구입할 수 있습니다. (양재본점, 도봉산점, 노원점, 영동시장점, 방이점, 마포점)

마트에는 홈플러스, 이마트등에서도 구입이 가능합니다.

#6. 가평 잣 막걸리
별 기대하지 않고 마셨던 가평 잣 막걸리는 의외로 꽤 괜찮은 맛을 자아냈습니다. 홈플러스에서 구입했었는데, 다른 곳에서는 아직 본적이 없습니다. 아내는 지평 막걸리와 가평 잣 막걸리를 좋아합니다.

#7. 우국생
아마도 마트에서 구입할 수 있는 전국 유통망을 갖은 막걸리 중에서는 맛이 최고라고 생각합니다. 막걸리라는게 특히 생막걸리는 유통기한이 짧고 만들어 낸 이후에도 발효가 계속 되다보니, 시간이 지날수록 맛이 변하게 됩니다. 이 때문에 막걸리는 전국 유통이 어렵습니다.
그럼에도 불구하고, 국순당에서 만들고 있는 생 막걸리인 우국생은 냉장유통과 발효제어기술로 부드러운 목넘김과 닷맛, 약간의 탄산이 자아내는 조화로운 맛과 세련된 병 디자인으로 막걸리를 가장 대중화를 잘 시킨 제품이라 생각합니다.
마트에서 구입 가능

#8. 국순당 생 막걸리
우국생과 마찬가지로, 국순당의 제품인데, 우국생보다는 맛이 좀 떨어진다는 평가가 많습니다. 
마트에서 구입 가능

#9. 순희
보해양조에서 제조하는 순희는 맛 자체의 깊은 맛은 없지만, 그냥 한번 마실만한 막걸리로 생각됩니다. 맛 자체는 좀 가볍지만, 탄산도 중간정도, 전체적으로 약간 목넘김이 불편하고, 다른 생 막걸리에 비해 머리가 살짝 아프다는 평도 있습니다. 순희는 파스퇴르 공법으로 만든 살균 막걸리입니다.

쌀80% 밀20% 올리고당과 아스파탐도 첨가되어 있습니다. 
다시 마실 생각은 없습니다.
마트에서 구입 가능

#10. 우포 막걸리
CJ에서 유통하는 엄선된 막걸리라고해서 마셔보았는데, 아 이런 너무 라이트한 맛이다. 밍밍한 이것도 저것도 아닌 맛.
마트에서 구입 가능

#11. 전주 막걸리
역시 CJ에서 유통하는 엄선된 막걸리라는 말에 다시 한번 현혹되서 마셔보았습니다. 우포 막걸리 보다는 살짝 조금 더 진한 맛이지만, 역시 맛이 너무 가볍습니다.
당분간 CJ에서 엄선한 막걸리는 안마실 계획입니다.
마트에서 구입 가능

#12. 호랑이 막걸리
배혜정도가의 현대화 된 막걸리입니다. 백화점에서 판매할 정도로 호랑이 그림이 그려진 병에서부터 막걸리의 고급화가 느껴집니다. 맛 또한 밸런스가 잘 갖추어지고 살짝 과실향이 난다고도 합니다. 하지만, 맛 자체를 현대화하고 젊은 여성층을 타겟으로해서 약간 가벼워진 맛이라는 평가도 있습니다.
배혜정도가는 배상면주가의 배상면님의 딸인 배혜정님이 만든 도가입니다.
우곡주(13도), 자색 부자 막걸리(8도), 부자 막걸리(10도)등 프리미엄 고급 막걸리를 제조하고 있습니다. 호랑이 막걸리보다는 우곡주나 부자 막걸리가 배혜정도가를 대표하는 술이라 할 수 있습니다. 살균막걸리인 경우가 많고 이 때문에 장기간 유통이 가능하여 해외수출도 하고 있습니다.

#13. 이화주
고려 시대 귀족들이 마셨다는 막걸리의 원조격입니다. 색깔부터 우유빛깔 하얀색으로 차별화 되어 있고, 큰 특징은 요거트처럼 걸죽하게 되어 있어서, 숟가락으로 떠먹을수도 있습니다. 생각보다 도수가 쎄요. 일반 막걸리 도수가 6~8도인것에 비해, 이화주는 12.5도로 매우 높습니다. 살균막걸리로 국순당에서 제조하고 있습니다.

국순당 vs 배상면주가

국순당 
- 배상면님은 1950년대 대구의 기린소주, 1960년대는 형인 배상순님과 포항에서 탁주 공장을 시작으로 1985년에는 배한산업을 설립하여 본격적인 전통주 사업을 시작합니다. 1990년 백세주를 만들고 대박 성공을 하면서 1992년 국순당으로 변경합니다. 현재 CEO는 맏아들인 배중호님이 맡고 있습니다. 배중호 사장은 소품종 대량생산 사업전략

배상면주가
- 히트상품 산사춘으로 배상면주가는 역시 배상면님의 막내 아들 배영호님이 CEO입니다.
- 배영호 사장은 다품종 소량생산 사업전략

배혜정누룩도가
- 명품 프리미엄 전통주를 생산하는 배혜정 누룩도가는 역시 배상면님의 딸인 배혜정님이 CEO입니다.


#14. 알밤 막걸리
충남 공주 지역의 유명 특산물인 밤을 사용하여 만든 막걸리입니다. 실제 밤은 5% 내외 첨가 되어 있습니다. 노란색이 특징인데, 달착지근한 맛으로 평가 받고 있습니다.

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    我们河南上百人怀着愤怒的心情,投诉一个贵校毕业的学生汪沛。我们之所以认为是贵校学生,是因为汪沛在网上吹吹嘘是从贵校毕业的。说是中国政法大学法学硕士研究生、被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万,享受副厅级待遇,回国后即是副市长副厅长级别。请领导查一下,若不是贵校学生,我们则向公安机关报案;若是,那么我们提供的情况有助贵校领导更加了解这个学生的情况,我们并强烈请求贵校取消汪的留学资格,并追究其相关民事与刑事责任。


    汪沛是河南开封市人,1983年生,其父亲汪海洋,64岁,籍贯山东,现住开封市。此人在80年代因犯罪被公安局劳教过,数年前因报假警被开封市公安局开发区分局拘留。汪海洋对被拘留一次告了5年,后来公安局赔了其5百元。但汪海洋却到处宣传是公安局错误拘留,并大肆宣传自己维权成功。汪海洋儿子的女朋友的朋友有一个亲戚是河南法制报的,为汪海洋策划了一个方案:找一些有律师代理快赢的案子,让汪海洋以免费维权的名义也介入,这样等官司打赢了,就说成是汪海洋的成绩。至于没成功的案子就不提了。

    开封市公安局开发区分局局长候锁柱同志曾在河南电视台采访时,一直坚持认为公安局的拘留没错。
    就这样在报道了几次后, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子,汪海洋就拿着报道过自己的报纸以维权为名到处行骗,但凡是被维权过的人都揭发其行骗,汪海洋对揭发他的人大肆辱骂并人身攻击,揭发他的有上百人,他骂的也有上百人。您在百度力输入《汪还洋公民维权网》就知道了。
    汪海洋辱骂别人的方式是:在网上骂别人父女通奸、母子通奸,说别人是骗子等,很多网友保留了证据。
    汪海洋不识字,不懂法律,年老体弱,在上述的一些活动中,需要文字上的东西时,就由其儿子汪佩书写,骂人的语言真是不堪入耳。可能贵校领导认为我们所言不真,那么很好验证:让汪海洋当场书写一份东西,他根本写不出来!就连电脑打字也不会!您可能会说,即使汪海洋不会写东西,但也没证据能证明是其儿子写的啊。那么我们也想在此问一下领导:学法律的儿子不看搞维权的父亲的网站,不知道这现实吗?要知道,汪佩一家人没有正当职业,汪佩本人的所有学费都是由其父亲的所谓维权骗来的钱完成的。当汪海洋因辱骂女人张艳琴被起诉时,汪本人怕败诉后没脸维权了,竟哭着说,一家人的生活费还要靠其维权来养活呢,这说明了什么?

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    请教胡星斗先生



    人民群众在揭露了开封强奸劳改犯汪海洋以维权为名搞诈骗的事后,其中涉及到胡星斗先生,汪海洋公开承认收了钱,网友们要求其列个名细表,汪海洋始终不敢列。胡先生说自己没收钱,参加会的也没有收钱,那好,就算你们没收钱,我们在此问一下,汪海洋这种行为该当何罪?群众拿很多钱是要求解决问题的,不是让开什么会的。

    其中参加会的还有什么养生会馆的人,还有什么"中国艺术研究院的国学辣妹妹"........国学辣妹是干什么去了?你们不感觉可笑吗?

    其中有《人民维权网》记者,这种网站是非法的,非法的单位的,其人也是非法的人,非法的人的活动也是非法的!!!这道理胡先生能不懂?汪海洋邀请你参加会时,会议什么内容参加的都是什么人难道你不要事先了解一下?



    你不认识汪海洋?汪海洋个人的网站上, 你可是第一顾问,也是唯一的顾问!!!社会现实生活中,稍微有点身份的人谁会给一个强奸劳改犯当顾问???全中国也只有你胡先生一人啊!



    你知道汪海洋父子以维权为名骗过的有多少人吗?仅河南省就有上百人,这些人早就在网上将汪海洋父子揭发了,汪海洋父子恼羞成怒,对揭发他们父子的人破口大骂。您可能会问这些人为什么相信一个强奸劳改犯,大家就是因为看到大名鼎鼎的您在当顾问,而且汪海洋说您专门解决大事,是中国的一些法律的修改人,能直接见胡温,所以大家才找他维权。请您在百度里输入开封汪海洋,看看揭发他们父子的有多少人!!!

    您不知道汪狗父子骂了多少人?那我们随便给您提供一些名单:

    泌阳老曹、周口现代、周口残疾人、天问、黑脸大眼、车骑将军、zxb2007、时间007、王文杰、王一川(大河网新闻中心记者)、中原侠客(大河网网民记者)、海蓝蓝、大河采风、九歌[大河网贵宾],燕子飞飞[大河网贵宾],ZXB2007[大河网贵宾],为民[大河网焦点版前斑竹],于无声处[大河网南阳版前斑竹],一叶方舟[大河网网友记者],时间007,伸张正义,黑脸大眼,农家女[大河前斑竹],。。。[女,大河网网友记者],,王文杰,海蓝蓝,大河采风,游客[大河论坛前主要管理人员],莫尼卡[大河论坛前主要管理人员],每个角落[大河论坛管理人员]等近百人。

    这些人都被汪海洋骂为:骗子,流氓,坏蛋。



    依据《中华人民共和国民法通则》第五条 公民、法人的合法的民事权益受法律保护,任何组织和个人不得侵犯。第一百零一条 公民、法人享有名誉权,公民的人格尊严受法律保护,禁止用侮辱、诽谤等方式损害公民、法人的名誉。汪海洋的侮辱、诽谤等方式已损害公民、法人的名誉,将承担因此而引起的法律后果。



    4.汪海洋所谓的维权方式是:让集体反映情况的当事人集资数万元,然后派个代表,由汪海洋约上几个人在北京召开个所谓的学术研讨会之类,拍个照就算完事了,也不当啥用。这不是骗人吗?很多农民听汪海洋自称是中国的法律专家,他一参加这个会事就解决了。可等农民花了几万元钱,实际上没一点作用,这不是骗人吗?



    一:2007年8月3日关于广东东莞横沥镇月塘村土地征用补偿费案例座谈会,是汪海洋去找农民组织的,让农民集资,在北京开了一个所谓的土地研讨会,不知汪海洋分了多少钱?



    二:2008年9月27日关于河南省汝州市临汝镇坡池村村治一案的学术研讨会,是汪海洋去找村主任张永周组织的,不知汪海洋父子要了多少钱,更不知汪海洋父子分了钱之后这样搪塞一下村民良心可安?



    三:2009-10月30日,汪海洋以维权为名,骗取湖南省洞口县270户村民8万元,在吃了喝了拿了旅游一番之后,到现在没了下 文。



    四:山东临沂地区300余名被错误下放的教师的权益需要维护,汪海洋前去找老教师谈判,然后由几名老教师代表,于2010年6月12日在北京参加了所谓的学术会,开后就没了下文!

    汪海洋在网上承认所有费用由老教师集资的。网友们让其列个明细表,但汪海洋一直不敢列。



    4.以维权为名骗周口市公安局印章厂魏德钊同志3枚金印章,一本古书。据魏德钊讲:3枚金印章总价值可达9千元。



    在很多情况下,汪海洋在对当事人吃过喝过拿过之后,说无权可维。如果给无权可维的人维权是不是诈骗、行骗?维权人明知无权可维,又不尽告知义务,反而引导当事人、并继续受其委托、收受费用,其行为为欺诈、诈骗、行骗行为。

    无权可维,不尽告知义务=欺骗、诈骗、行骗

    被委托后不尽其维权责任===涉嫌欺诈、哄骗

    可以确认汪海洋借维权之名行骗。



    这些人其中一部分可以联系到,如:

    魏德钊 电话:13603875911 住址:周口市建设中路180号,原周口市公安局印章厂厂长

    被辱骂过的一会儿些人联系方式:

    曹辉 13323964976 13343964855住址:驻马店泌阳县文明路中段

    李孟平,驻马店人, 电话:13683896133. 邮箱:teio@163.com

    程军锋:13837192727 ,邮箱:cjf5188@163.com

    王一川 wang13703971779@126, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子.com(大河网新闻中心网民记者)

    张胜卫13837513317(禹州人,其父亲被汪海洋无辜骂成骗子、黑社会)

    大河网版主:为民

    金博大律师事务所赵律师,曾代理过大河网与汪海洋的官司,认为汪根本不懂法律,胡搅谩缠。

    张艳琴,女,汉族,13526552574,住郑州市金水区庙李镇张家村142号(因汪海洋辱骂自己是娼妇将汪告上法庭) 。

    新乡市几位农民被汪海洋以维权为名骗走2000元后就没了下文,打汪海洋电话不接。

    新乡被骗农民电话请与上述人联系即可



    汪海洋父子办有两个网站:

    1.汪海洋公民维权网



    E-mail:kfwhy@126.com

    电话:0378-2581580 2581581 手机:13069333953

    网站上全是骂人帖子,不给钱不删帖

    2.开封恒远商务投资咨询中心地址: 河南开封河南省开封市学院门街23号外贸大厦802-803室

    电话: 86-378-2552666

    手机: 13069333953

    此网站未经工信部备案(属于非法网站,属于公安机关打击对象),税费、产品交易、也没记录,这应该购成诈骗。



    综合以上情况,我们认为:汪海洋父子哄骗了胡星斗先生,并打着胡先生的旗号在骗人。我们相信胡先生是为民着想的好人,被坏人给利用了。也奉劝胡先生不要再给汪海洋父子骗子网站当顾问了,否则以后被骗的群众还会连您一起上告的,到时您跳到黄河也说不清了。



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    这个汪沛专骗富婆,自称中国政法大学法学硕士研究生,受理单位代码:707,学号:2010707006,被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万。这几年里开封有多位女士已被骗,其中一位女士的一块和田玉价值500百万以上。这是中国政法大学网址cupl.edu.cn,我们想把情况揭露在这里,可还需要什么注册,谁能帮下忙发上,谢谢了,免得其她女士以后再受害。

    请中国政法大学校长黄进擦亮眼睛!!!
    尊敬的黄进校长您好!
    我们河南上百人怀着愤怒的心情,投诉一个贵校毕业的学生汪沛。我们之所以认为是贵校学生,是因为汪沛在网上吹吹嘘是从贵校毕业的。说是中国政法大学法学硕士研究生、被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万,享受副厅级待遇,回国后即是副市长副厅长级别。请领导查一下,若不是贵校学生,我们则向公安机关报案;若是,那么我们提供的情况有助贵校领导更加了解这个学生的情况,我们并强烈请求贵校取消汪的留学资格,并追究其相关民事与刑事责任。


    汪沛是河南开封市人,1983年生,其父亲汪海洋,64岁,籍贯山东,现住开封市。此人在80年代因犯罪被公安局劳教过,数年前因报假警被开封市公安局开发区分局拘留。汪海洋对被拘留一次告了5年,后来公安局赔了其5百元。但汪海洋却到处宣传是公安局错误拘留,并大肆宣传自己维权成功。汪海洋儿子的女朋友的朋友有一个亲戚是河南法制报的,为汪海洋策划了一个方案:找一些有律师代理快赢的案子,让汪海洋以免费维权的名义也介入,这样等官司打赢了,就说成是汪海洋的成绩。至于没成功的案子就不提了。

    开封市公安局开发区分局局长候锁柱同志曾在河南电视台采访时,一直坚持认为公安局的拘留没错。
    就这样在报道了几次后,汪海洋就拿着报道过自己的报纸以维权为名到处行骗,但凡是被维权过的人都揭发其行骗,汪海洋对揭发他的人大肆辱骂并人身攻击,揭发他的有上百人,他骂的也有上百人。您在百度力输入《汪还洋公民维权网》就知道了。
    汪海洋辱骂别人的方式是:在网上骂别人父女通奸、母子通奸,说别人是骗子等,很多网友保留了证据。
    汪海洋不识字,不懂法律,年老体弱,在上述的一些活动中,需要文字上的东西时,就由其儿子汪佩书写,骂人的语言真是不堪入耳。可能贵校领导认为我们所言不真,那么很好验证:让汪海洋当场书写一份东西,他根本写不出来!就连电脑打字也不会!您可能会说,即使汪海洋不会写东西,但也没证据能证明是其儿子写的啊。那么我们也想在此问一下领导:学法律的儿子不看搞维权的父亲的网站,不知道这现实吗?要知道,汪佩一家人没有正当职业,汪佩本人的所有学费都是由其父亲的所谓维权骗来的钱完成的。当汪海洋因辱骂女人张艳琴被起诉时,汪本人怕败诉后没脸维权了,竟哭着说,一家人的生活费还要靠其维权来养活呢,这说明了什么?





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    这个汪沛专骗富婆,自称中国政法大学法学硕士研究生,受理单位代码:707,学号:2010707006,被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万。这几年里开封有多位女士已被骗,其中一位女士的一块和田玉价值500百万以上。这是中国政法大学网址cupl.edu.cn,我们想把情况揭露在这里,可还需要什么注册,谁能帮下忙发上,谢谢了,免得其她女士以后再受害。

    请中国政法大学校长黄进擦亮眼睛!!!
    尊敬的黄进校长您好!
    我们河南上百人怀着愤怒的心情,投诉一个贵校毕业的学生汪沛。我们之所以认为是贵校学生,是因为汪沛在网上吹吹嘘是从贵校毕业的。说是中国政法大学法学硕士研究生、被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万,享受副厅级待遇,回国后即是副市长副厅长级别。请领导查一下,若不是贵校学生,我们则向公安机关报案;若是,那么我们提供的情况有助贵校领导更加了解这个学生的情况,我们并强烈请求贵校取消汪的留学资格,并追究其相关民事与刑事责任。


    汪沛是河南开封市人,1983年生,其父亲汪海洋,64岁,籍贯山东,现住开封市。此人在80年代因犯罪被公安局劳教过,数年前因报假警被开封市公安局开发区分局拘留。汪海洋对被拘留一次告了5年,后来公安局赔了其5百元。但汪海洋却到处宣传是公安局错误拘留,并大肆宣传自己维权成功。汪海洋儿子的女朋友的朋友有一个亲戚是河南法制报的,为汪海洋策划了一个方案:找一些有律师代理快赢的案子,让汪海洋以免费维权的名义也介入,这样等官司打赢了,就说成是汪海洋的成绩。至于没成功的案子就不提了。

    开封市公安局开发区分局局长候锁柱同志曾在河南电视台采访时,一直坚持认为公安局的拘留没错。
    就这样在报道了几次后,汪海洋就拿着报道过自己的报纸以维权为名到处行骗,但凡是被维权过的人都揭发其行骗,汪海洋对揭发他的人大肆辱骂并人身攻击,揭发他的有上百人, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子,他骂的也有上百人。您在百度力输入《汪还洋公民维权网》就知道了。
    汪海洋辱骂别人的方式是:在网上骂别人父女通奸、母子通奸,说别人是骗子等,很多网友保留了证据。
    汪海洋不识字,不懂法律,年老体弱,在上述的一些活动中,需要文字上的东西时,就由其儿子汪佩书写,骂人的语言真是不堪入耳。可能贵校领导认为我们所言不真,那么很好验证:让汪海洋当场书写一份东西,他根本写不出来!就连电脑打字也不会!您可能会说,即使汪海洋不会写东西,但也没证据能证明是其儿子写的啊。那么我们也想在此问一下领导:学法律的儿子不看搞维权的父亲的网站,不知道这现实吗?要知道,汪佩一家人没有正当职业,汪佩本人的所有学费都是由其父亲的所谓维权骗来的钱完成的。当汪海洋因辱骂女人张艳琴被起诉时,汪本人怕败诉后没脸维权了,竟哭着说,一家人的生活费还要靠其维权来养活呢,这说明了什么?

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    人民群众在揭露了开封强奸劳改犯汪海洋以维权为名搞诈骗的事后,其中涉及到胡星斗先生,汪海洋公开承认收了钱,网友们要求其列个名细表,汪海洋始终不敢列。胡先生说自己没收钱,参加会的也没有收钱,那好,就算你们没收钱,我们在此问一下,汪海洋这种行为该当何罪?群众拿很多钱是要求解决问题的,不是让开什么会的。

    其中参加会的还有什么养生会馆的人,还有什么"中国艺术研究院的国学辣妹妹"........国学辣妹是干什么去了?你们不感觉可笑吗?

    其中有《人民维权网》记者,这种网站是非法的,非法的单位的,其人也是非法的人,非法的人的活动也是非法的!!!这道理胡先生能不懂?汪海洋邀请你参加会时,会议什么内容参加的都是什么人难道你不要事先了解一下?



    你不认识汪海洋?汪海洋个人的网站上, 你可是第一顾问,也是唯一的顾问!!!社会现实生活中,稍微有点身份的人谁会给一个强奸劳改犯当顾问???全中国也只有你胡先生一人啊!



    你知道汪海洋父子以维权为名骗过的有多少人吗?仅河南省就有上百人,这些人早就在网上将汪海洋父子揭发了,汪海洋父子恼羞成怒,对揭发他们父子的人破口大骂。您可能会问这些人为什么相信一个强奸劳改犯,大家就是因为看到大名鼎鼎的您在当顾问,而且汪海洋说您专门解决大事,是中国的一些法律的修改人,能直接见胡温,所以大家才找他维权。请您在百度里输入开封汪海洋,看看揭发他们父子的有多少人!!!

    您不知道汪狗父子骂了多少人?那我们随便给您提供一些名单:

    泌阳老曹、周口现代、周口残疾人、天问、黑脸大眼、车骑将军、zxb2007、时间007、王文杰、王一川(大河网新闻中心记者)、中原侠客(大河网网民记者)、海蓝蓝、大河采风、九歌[大河网贵宾],燕子飞飞[大河网贵宾],ZXB2007[大河网贵宾],为民[大河网焦点版前斑竹],于无声处[大河网南阳版前斑竹],一叶方舟[大河网网友记者],时间007,伸张正义,黑脸大眼,农家女[大河前斑竹],。。。[女,大河网网友记者],,王文杰,海蓝蓝,大河采风,游客[大河论坛前主要管理人员],莫尼卡[大河论坛前主要管理人员],每个角落[大河论坛管理人员]等近百人。

    这些人都被汪海洋骂为:骗子,流氓,坏蛋。



    依据《中华人民共和国民法通则》第五条 公民、法人的合法的民事权益受法律保护,任何组织和个人不得侵犯。第一百零一条 公民、法人享有名誉权,公民的人格尊严受法律保护,禁止用侮辱、诽谤等方式损害公民、法人的名誉。汪海洋的侮辱、诽谤等方式已损害公民、法人的名誉,将承担因此而引起的法律后果。



    4.汪海洋所谓的维权方式是:让集体反映情况的当事人集资数万元,然后派个代表,由汪海洋约上几个人在北京召开个所谓的学术研讨会之类,拍个照就算完事了,也不当啥用。这不是骗人吗?很多农民听汪海洋自称是中国的法律专家,他一参加这个会事就解决了。可等农民花了几万元钱,实际上没一点作用,这不是骗人吗?



    一:2007年8月3日关于广东东莞横沥镇月塘村土地征用补偿费案例座谈会,是汪海洋去找农民组织的,让农民集资,在北京开了一个所谓的土地研讨会,不知汪海洋分了多少钱?



    二:2008年9月27日关于河南省汝州市临汝镇坡池村村治一案的学术研讨会,是汪海洋去找村主任张永周组织的,不知汪海洋父子要了多少钱,更不知汪海洋父子分了钱之后这样搪塞一下村民良心可安?



    三:2009-10月30日,汪海洋以维权为名,骗取湖南省洞口县270户村民8万元,在吃了喝了拿了旅游一番之后,到现在没了下 文。



    四:山东临沂地区300余名被错误下放的教师的权益需要维护,汪海洋前去找老教师谈判,然后由几名老教师代表,于2010年6月12日在北京参加了所谓的学术会,开后就没了下文!

    汪海洋在网上承认所有费用由老教师集资的。网友们让其列个明细表,但汪海洋一直不敢列。



    4.以维权为名骗周口市公安局印章厂魏德钊同志3枚金印章,一本古书。据魏德钊讲:3枚金印章总价值可达9千元。



    在很多情况下,汪海洋在对当事人吃过喝过拿过之后,说无权可维。如果给无权可维的人维权是不是诈骗、行骗?维权人明知无权可维,又不尽告知义务,反而引导当事人、并继续受其委托、收受费用,其行为为欺诈、诈骗、行骗行为。

    无权可维,不尽告知义务=欺骗、诈骗、行骗

    被委托后不尽其维权责任===涉嫌欺诈、哄骗

    可以确认汪海洋借维权之名行骗。



    这些人其中一部分可以联系到,如:

    魏德钊 电话:13603875911 住址:周口市建设中路180号,原周口市公安局印章厂厂长

    被辱骂过的一会儿些人联系方式:

    曹辉 13323964976 13343964855住址:驻马店泌阳县文明路中段

    李孟平,驻马店人, 电话:13683896133. 邮箱:teio@163.com

    程军锋:13837192727 ,邮箱:cjf5188@163.com

    王一川 wang13703971779@126.com(大河网新闻中心网民记者)

    张胜卫13837513317(禹州人,其父亲被汪海洋无辜骂成骗子、黑社会)

    大河网版主:为民

    金博大律师事务所赵律师,曾代理过大河网与汪海洋的官司,认为汪根本不懂法律,胡搅谩缠。

    张艳琴,女,汉族,13526552574,住郑州市金水区庙李镇张家村142号(因汪海洋辱骂自己是娼妇将汪告上法庭) 。

    新乡市几位农民被汪海洋以维权为名骗走2000元后就没了下文,打汪海洋电话不接。

    新乡被骗农民电话请与上述人联系即可



    汪海洋父子办有两个网站:

    1.汪海洋公民维权网



    E-mail:kfwhy@126.com

    电话:0378-2581580 2581581 手机:13069333953

    网站上全是骂人帖子, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子,不给钱不删帖

    2.开封恒远商务投资咨询中心地址: 河南开封河南省开封市学院门街23号外贸大厦802-803室

    电话: 86-378-2552666

    手机: 13069333953

    此网站未经工信部备案(属于非法网站,属于公安机关打击对象),税费、产品交易、也没记录,这应该购成诈骗。



    综合以上情况,我们认为:汪海洋父子哄骗了胡星斗先生,并打着胡先生的旗号在骗人。我们相信胡先生是为民着想的好人,被坏人给利用了。也奉劝胡先生不要再给汪海洋父子骗子网站当顾问了,否则以后被骗的群众还会连您一起上告的,到时您跳到黄河也说不清了。

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    主题:痛揭开封劳改犯维权老骗子汪海洋汪沛父子(富婆包养)有关精彩图片!

    请大家认住这个专骗富婆的畜生汪沛(父亲是汪海洋,母亲是许建美)!!!




    这个畜生汪沛,1983年生,自称是大学生,开封市人,专一骗富婆为主!2005年骗开封市南关区马道街北段一做服装生意的王女士3万;2007年骗中山路开饭店的李女士5万元;2009年又以谈恋爱为名骗医科学校一女教师3万元,用婚外情骗北京朝阳区有夫之妇赵女士一块和田玉(价值200多万),这是我们所了解到的,没有了解到的还有很多!现在汪佩不敢露头,一露头就会有很多人要宰了他!请大家人肉这个赖孙,随时公布他的行踪!请将有关信息及时发送到 mailto:mengpingwo@163.com mengpingwo@163.com,若有价值,定重金酬谢!


    这个赖孙借钱的理由是:自己是中国政法大学毕业,要创业办律师所,办维权网站等。这个赖孙在与女人发生性关系时常常暗中录下像,若是被借钱的女士向其要帐,这个赖孙就以公布性录像来威胁!或者让其劳改犯父亲汪海洋出面来威胁!


    其父亲汪海洋现在65岁, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子,因为侮辱轮奸妇女被劳改。在劳改期间老婆与别人怀孕生子,汪海洋出监狱后对社会怀有仇恨,其儿子汪佩因出身不明对社会同样不满,于是父子俩人办了个《汪海洋公民维权网》 http://www.cnwqw.com/ www.cnwqw.com及开封恒远商务投资咨询中心,网址是 http://www.kfwhy.sm160.net/ http://www.kfwhy.sm160.net/到处以维权为名骗钱,被人揭发后到处骂人。


    这个赖孙为了便于行骗,用过汪培、汪沛、汪霈、汪佩等,不管用哪个名,这是这个赖孙的照片,请大家一定要认清!!!


    可证明汪海洋父子被劳改单位:开封市五一路派出所


    被侮辱女网友张艳琴已将汪海洋起诉到:郑州市金水区法院。

    (住:郑州市金水区庙李镇张家村142号)


    魏德钊同志(原周口市公安局印章厂厂长),被汪海洋父子以维权为名骗走:三枚金印章、偷走一本价值连城的古书!


    富婆马丽萍现住:北京市朝阳区南新圆中路113号楼409室


    马丽萍由于老公孔子林与强奸犯汪海洋是把兄弟,两人又都是以维权骗人,在这当中马丽萍认识了汪海洋的私生子汪沛。马丽萍这几年搞敲诈争了很大一笔钱,但也色的狠,与汪沛勾搭上之后,这个富婆经过活动,把汪沛送到了中国政法大学培养,汪沛付出的代价是陪富婆10年。不过汪沛在陪了5年后不想陪了,富婆恼羞成怒,把这事揭发出来了,唉,其实这种行为是为人所不耻的。


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    请全国帮忙人肉





    一下这个河南人!!!
    这个汪沛专骗富婆,自称中国政法大学法学硕士研究生,受理单位代码:707,学号:2010707006,被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万。这几年里开封有多位女士已被骗,其中一位女士的一块和田玉价值500百万以上。这是中国政法大学网址cupl.edu.cn,我们想把情况揭露在这里,可还需要什么注册,谁能帮下忙发上,谢谢了,免得其她女士以后再受害。

    请中国政法大学校长黄进擦亮眼睛!!!
    尊敬的黄进校长您好!
    我们河南上百人怀着愤怒的心情,投诉一个贵校毕业的学生汪沛。我们之所以认为是贵校学生,是因为汪沛在网上吹吹嘘是从贵校毕业的。说是中国政法大学法学硕士研究生、被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万,享受副厅级待遇,回国后即是副市长副厅长级别。请领导查一下,若不是贵校学生,我们则向公安机关报案;若是,那么我们提供的情况有助贵校领导更加了解这个学生的情况,我们并强烈请求贵校取消汪的留学资格,并追究其相关民事与刑事责任。


    汪沛是河南开封市人,1983年生,其父亲汪海洋,64岁,籍贯山东,现住开封市。此人在80年代因犯罪被公安局劳教过,数年前因报假警被开封市公安局开发区分局拘留。汪海洋对被拘留一次告了5年,后来公安局赔了其5百元。但汪海洋却到处宣传是公安局错误拘留,并大肆宣传自己维权成功。汪海洋儿子的女朋友的朋友有一个亲戚是河南法制报的,为汪海洋策划了一个方案:找一些有律师代理快赢的案子,让汪海洋以免费维权的名义也介入,这样等官司打赢了,就说成是汪海洋的成绩。至于没成功的案子就不提了。

    开封市公安局开发区分局局长候锁柱同志曾在河南电视台采访时,一直坚持认为公安局的拘留没错。
    就这样在报道了几次后,汪海洋就拿着报道过自己的报纸以维权为名到处行骗,但凡是被维权过的人都揭发其行骗,汪海洋对揭发他的人大肆辱骂并人身攻击,揭发他的有上百人,他骂的也有上百人。您在百度力输入《汪还洋公民维权网》就知道了。
    汪海洋辱骂别人的方式是:在网上骂别人父女通奸、母子通奸,说别人是骗子等,很多网友保留了证据。
    汪海洋不识字,不懂法律,年老体弱,在上述的一些活动中,需要文字上的东西时,就由其儿子汪佩书写,骂人的语言真是不堪入耳。可能贵校领导认为我们所言不真, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子,那么很好验证:让汪海洋当场书写一份东西,他根本写不出来!就连电脑打字也不会!您可能会说,即使汪海洋不会写东西,但也没证据能证明是其儿子写的啊。那么我们也想在此问一下领导:学法律的儿子不看搞维权的父亲的网站,不知道这现实吗?要知道,汪佩一家人没有正当职业,汪佩本人的所有学费都是由其父亲的所谓维权骗来的钱完成的。当汪海洋因辱骂女人张艳琴被起诉时,汪本人怕败诉后没脸维权了,竟哭着说,一家人的生活费还要靠其维权来养活呢,这说明了什么?





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    开封市公安局开发区分局局长候锁柱同志曾在河南电视台采访时,一直坚持认为公安局的拘留没错。
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    我们河南上百人怀着愤怒的心情,投诉一个贵校毕业的学生汪沛。我们之所以认为是贵校学生,是因为汪沛在网上吹吹嘘是从贵校毕业的。说是中国政法大学法学硕士研究生、被国家公费派到德国科隆大学法学院留学,一年国家赞助美金50万,享受副厅级待遇,回国后即是副市长副厅长级别。请领导查一下,若不是贵校学生,我们则向公安机关报案;若是,那么我们提供的情况有助贵校领导更加了解这个学生的情况,我们并强烈请求贵校取消汪的留学资格,并追究其相关民事与刑事责任。


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    开封市公安局开发区分局局长候锁柱同志曾在河南电视台采访时,一直坚持认为公安局的拘留没错。
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    河南开封专骗富婆大骗子汪沛的下场


    汪沛这个骗子,开封人,1983年生,先后被富婆保养送到开封高中、吉林大学、中国政法大学进修包装镀金,以免吃软饭不好听, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子。其父亲则是强奸犯汪海洋,以维权骗人为生。大家与他之间的斗争已经旷日持久了,但是由于我的作为,这个大骗子的诈骗乱伦丑态早已被世人知晓,从今往后再也没有人相信"当代侠客",什么"神人",这个不耻于人类的畜生了。从虞城高仁民的揭发,到汪沛的假岳父巩义马占魁的控诉这都是有录像作为证据的,而且没有屈说他一点。汪沛如丧考妣,多年精心的包装与他建骗子网都被我无情的揭穿了。当汪沛被剥的赤裸裸的时候,也就是他的灭亡之日。一个以行骗为生的人,被人揭着了老底,公之于众后,对骗子的打击,无疑是灭顶之灾。我为了打击这个骗子,数年来气不顺,以大无畏的气概不惜血本的投入,是为了什么?就是为了还老百姓子一个清净的日子,使那些有委有屈的人不再上当受骗。最终目的是将汪沛绳之于法,为此,我也付出非常令一般人不能容忍的代价。疯狂的汪沛,覆灭前的猖狂一跳,穷凶极恶的对举报人和家人进行了犯罪式的诽谤诬陷。真金不怕火炼,人正不怕影歪,大家如果还知道其父亲劳改犯汪海洋有什么劣迹的话都可以揭发举报。汪沛无中生有的造谣和污蔑到头来只能搬着石头砸自己的脚。被骗网友在这里正式给大家预报,大骗子汪沛作恶多端,恶贯满盈,其乱伦诈骗罪行真是罄竹难书。不过在大河网已经是被我打的落花流水,只有换个马甲偷偷恶咬两口,以解他心中的闷气。不久的将来在某个法院的法庭上,汪沛必将以犯诈骗罪,诽谤罪(当然和他亲娘乱伦,乱搞男女关系,发展骈头,包养小蜜还不为犯罪犯愁,但只能证明这个人是何等的龌龊)

    汪沛,大家既然敢斗你这个无赖,就不怕你的无赖手段,你的行为只能最证明你卑鄙到无法再卑鄙的地步,但是,将来被判刑八年的人不是别人,正是你河南专骗富婆大骗子汪沛。你可以再疯狂的继续再咬下去,这只能给你增加你的犯罪的证据。

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    请教胡星斗先生



    人民群众在揭露了开封强奸劳改犯汪海洋以维权为名搞诈骗的事后,其中涉及到胡星斗先生,汪海洋公开承认收了钱,网友们要求其列个名细表,汪海洋始终不敢列。胡先生说自己没收钱,参加会的也没有收钱,那好,就算你们没收钱,我们在此问一下,汪海洋这种行为该当何罪?群众拿很多钱是要求解决问题的,不是让开什么会的。

    其中参加会的还有什么养生会馆的人,还有什么"中国艺术研究院的国学辣妹妹"........国学辣妹是干什么去了?你们不感觉可笑吗?

    其中有《人民维权网》记者,这种网站是非法的,非法的单位的,其人也是非法的人,非法的人的活动也是非法的!!!这道理胡先生能不懂?汪海洋邀请你参加会时,会议什么内容参加的都是什么人难道你不要事先了解一下?



    你不认识汪海洋?汪海洋个人的网站上, 你可是第一顾问,也是唯一的顾问!!!社会现实生活中,稍微有点身份的人谁会给一个强奸劳改犯当顾问???全中国也只有你胡先生一人啊!



    你知道汪海洋父子以维权为名骗过的有多少人吗?仅河南省就有上百人,这些人早就在网上将汪海洋父子揭发了,汪海洋父子恼羞成怒,对揭发他们父子的人破口大骂。您可能会问这些人为什么相信一个强奸劳改犯,大家就是因为看到大名鼎鼎的您在当顾问,而且汪海洋说您专门解决大事,是中国的一些法律的修改人,能直接见胡温,所以大家才找他维权。请您在百度里输入开封汪海洋,看看揭发他们父子的有多少人!!!

    您不知道汪狗父子骂了多少人?那我们随便给您提供一些名单:

    泌阳老曹、周口现代、周口残疾人、天问、黑脸大眼、车骑将军、zxb2007、时间007、王文杰、王一川(大河网新闻中心记者)、中原侠客(大河网网民记者)、海蓝蓝、大河采风、九歌[大河网贵宾],燕子飞飞[大河网贵宾],ZXB2007[大河网贵宾],为民[大河网焦点版前斑竹],于无声处[大河网南阳版前斑竹],一叶方舟[大河网网友记者],时间007,伸张正义,黑脸大眼,农家女[大河前斑竹],。。。[女,大河网网友记者],,王文杰,海蓝蓝,大河采风,游客[大河论坛前主要管理人员],莫尼卡[大河论坛前主要管理人员],每个角落[大河论坛管理人员]等近百人。

    这些人都被汪海洋骂为:骗子,流氓,坏蛋。



    依据《中华人民共和国民法通则》第五条 公民、法人的合法的民事权益受法律保护,任何组织和个人不得侵犯。第一百零一条 公民、法人享有名誉权,公民的人格尊严受法律保护,禁止用侮辱、诽谤等方式损害公民、法人的名誉。汪海洋的侮辱、诽谤等方式已损害公民、法人的名誉,将承担因此而引起的法律后果。



    4.汪海洋所谓的维权方式是:让集体反映情况的当事人集资数万元,然后派个代表,由汪海洋约上几个人在北京召开个所谓的学术研讨会之类,拍个照就算完事了,也不当啥用。这不是骗人吗?很多农民听汪海洋自称是中国的法律专家,他一参加这个会事就解决了。可等农民花了几万元钱,实际上没一点作用,这不是骗人吗?



    一:2007年8月3日关于广东东莞横沥镇月塘村土地征用补偿费案例座谈会,是汪海洋去找农民组织的,让农民集资,在北京开了一个所谓的土地研讨会,不知汪海洋分了多少钱?



    二:2008年9月27日关于河南省汝州市临汝镇坡池村村治一案的学术研讨会,是汪海洋去找村主任张永周组织的,不知汪海洋父子要了多少钱,更不知汪海洋父子分了钱之后这样搪塞一下村民良心可安?



    三:2009-10月30日,汪海洋以维权为名,骗取湖南省洞口县270户村民8万元,在吃了喝了拿了旅游一番之后,到现在没了下 文。



    四:山东临沂地区300余名被错误下放的教师的权益需要维护,汪海洋前去找老教师谈判,然后由几名老教师代表,于2010年6月12日在北京参加了所谓的学术会,开后就没了下文!

    汪海洋在网上承认所有费用由老教师集资的。网友们让其列个明细表,但汪海洋一直不敢列。



    4.以维权为名骗周口市公安局印章厂魏德钊同志3枚金印章,一本古书。据魏德钊讲:3枚金印章总价值可达9千元。



    在很多情况下,汪海洋在对当事人吃过喝过拿过之后,说无权可维。如果给无权可维的人维权是不是诈骗、行骗?维权人明知无权可维,又不尽告知义务,反而引导当事人、并继续受其委托、收受费用,其行为为欺诈、诈骗、行骗行为。

    无权可维,不尽告知义务=欺骗、诈骗、行骗

    被委托后不尽其维权责任===涉嫌欺诈、哄骗

    可以确认汪海洋借维权之名行骗。



    这些人其中一部分可以联系到,如:

    魏德钊 电话:13603875911 住址:周口市建设中路180号,原周口市公安局印章厂厂长

    被辱骂过的一会儿些人联系方式:

    曹辉 13323964976 13343964855住址:驻马店泌阳县文明路中段

    李孟平,驻马店人, 电话:13683896133. 邮箱:teio@163.com

    程军锋:13837192727 ,邮箱:cjf5188@163.com

    王一川 wang13703971779@126.com(大河网新闻中心网民记者)

    张胜卫13837513317(禹州人,其父亲被汪海洋无辜骂成骗子、黑社会)

    大河网版主:为民

    金博大律师事务所赵律师,曾代理过大河网与汪海洋的官司,认为汪根本不懂法律,胡搅谩缠。

    张艳琴,女,汉族,13526552574,住郑州市金水区庙李镇张家村142号(因汪海洋辱骂自己是娼妇将汪告上法庭) 。

    新乡市几位农民被汪海洋以维权为名骗走2000元后就没了下文,打汪海洋电话不接。

    新乡被骗农民电话请与上述人联系即可



    汪海洋父子办有两个网站:

    1.汪海洋公民维权网



    E-mail:kfwhy@126.com

    电话:0378-2581580 2581581 手机:13069333953

    网站上全是骂人帖子, http://forum.book.sina.com.cn/thread-4817828-1-1.html 开封王海洋王沛禽兽父子,不给钱不删帖

    2.开封恒远商务投资咨询中心地址: 河南开封河南省开封市学院门街23号外贸大厦802-803室

    电话: 86-378-2552666

    手机: 13069333953

    此网站未经工信部备案(属于非法网站,属于公安机关打击对象),税费、产品交易、也没记录,这应该购成诈骗。



    综合以上情况,我们认为:汪海洋父子哄骗了胡星斗先生,并打着胡先生的旗号在骗人。我们相信胡先生是为民着想的好人,被坏人给利用了。也奉劝胡先生不要再给汪海洋父子骗子网站当顾问了,否则以后被骗的群众还会连您一起上告的,到时您跳到黄河也说不清了。



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    胡星斗到底存在诈骗不,请全国人关注!!!

    尊敬的全国网友,我们向大家反映一下有关所谓"著名学者"胡星斗的几件事,请大家给评评理,看看胡星斗的行径。



    在讲事之前,我先讲一个人。河南省有个劳改犯汪海洋,汪海洋今年60岁,因强奸妇女被劳改8年,因侮辱大河女网友张艳琴被告上法庭!(张艳琴,女,汉族,住郑州市金水区庙李镇张家村142号)。



    汪海洋所谓的维权方式是:让集体反映情况的当事人集资数万元,然后派个代表,由汪海洋约上胡星斗在北京召开个所谓的学术研讨会之类,拍个照就算完事了,也不当啥用。这不是骗人吗?很多农民听汪海洋说胡星斗是中国的法律专家,他一参加这个会事就解决了。可等农民花了几万元钱,实际上没一点作用,这不是骗人吗?

    2008年9月27日关于河南省汝州市临汝镇坡池村村治一案的学术研讨会,村民拿了6万,不知胡星斗先生分了多少钱。更不知胡星斗先生分了钱之后这样搪塞一下村民良心可安?



    数月前,由汪海洋这个牵皮条的又给胡星斗先生拉了一笔生意。山东临沂地区300余名被错误下放的教师的权益需要维护,汪海洋共收取了10万元,然后由几名老教师代表,于2010年6月12日在北京参加了所谓的著名学者胡星斗先生主讲的学术会,然后又没了下文!!!

    .............................

    胡星斗先生,你常自称是中国人的良心,这就是你做的事情吗?你的良心何忍?你每次分了多少钱?你敢说你没分钱?以你的智商你应该能分析出劳改犯汪海洋屡次让你参加这类会的目的,你好意思是否认吗?

    告状人本来就不容易,一分一厘都是省出来的,甚至是借来的钱,骗这种人的钱,是不会得好报应的啊!听说胡星斗先生还是北京理工大学的教授,教授都这样了,看来中国人真是坏透了啊!

    这是我们从网上看到的有关汪海洋的劣迹如下,请所有的人警惕河南的骗子啊!



    汪海洋因强奸妇女被劳改8年,年轻老婆当然耐不住寂寞,偷汉私生子。现在父子两人办个《汪海洋公民维权网http://www.cnwqw.com/》到处骗人,网站上全是骂人帖子,不给钱不删帖。

    还办了一个开封恒远商务投资咨询中心http://www.kfwhy.sm160.net/,开封市汪海洋资讯管理有限公司,此网站未经工信部备案,税费、产品交易、是不是也没记录,动机意图是不是行骗??? 无登记信息就是非法的假公司。 涉嫌诈骗!!!汪海洋让三陪儿媳妇去找记者攻关,让记者虚假报道自己,这样好行骗)

    地址: 河南开封河南省开封市学院门街23号外贸大厦802-803室



    http://www.xici.net/u17490152/d98159831.htm

    假英雄、真骗子汪海洋现形记09-09-06 12:41 发表于:《河南媒体群》 分类:未分类

    开封有个60多岁的汪 海 洋,曾因诈骗和猥亵妇女被劳改。出狱后,自称是神人下凡,到处给人家的官司免费代理,然后等人家经过不断的努力官司胜诉了(人家请的有律师),,就大张旗鼓的宣传自己代理赢了,然后跑到报社向记者讲自己维权的"艰辛"。记者报道后,汪 海 洋立即以此大肆行骗,小至一盒烟,不管大钱小钱都要,但由于没有采访权、没有调查权、没有官司(刑事)代理权,不会写答辩,维权不下去,收了人家东西办不成事,于是被骗者不断揭发,汪 海 洋恼羞成怒,只好破口大骂。并且对大河网上有些名气的网友也骂,想以此成名,以为大家让他一骂就不再上这个网了,他就是英雄了,多么可蠢可耻可悲啊。拿了当事人的材料再到另一方去告密要赏,两头吃,真他妈不是人。



    汪 海 洋在金水法院被大河网友掀耳光;到省法院被门卫训斥;下农村采访被村民把车都给砸了(害得被邀请的记者也根着担惊害怕),被大河女网友起诉到金水区柳林法院。前后揭发其行骗的有近百人。



    汪 海 洋在本省进行的所谓的"维权"还到处挨打,就这水平如果到外省弄不好连尸首都找不着。而本省的只有大河网这个阵地了,可就连这个阵地因为自己的行骗也被大河网给封了,只好让其政法学校毕业无所事事的儿子,运用所学知识,使用高科技软件(可以自由变换ip地址),天天在这里发帖,尽管被封了2000多个马甲,可仍"坚持不懈"。由于行骗不断被人揭发,汪 海 洋生活没了着落。汪 海 洋经过其政法毕业的儿子(无业)策划,以被封ip为由起诉大河网,其实输赢对汪来讲无所谓,他要的是这个效果:看看,大河网我都敢起诉,我多有本事!结果呢当然是败诉。并且在郑州金水法院被大河网友掀耳光后又被110带走!!!



    后来又想出捐款500元圈套,想骗大家往其提供的帐户上捐款,结果被网友们立即识破。就这种在监狱里学的下三烂水平还拿出来面向社会行骗,真让人恶心。



    现在的汪 海 洋干什么?就是天天与无业儿子在家汗流浃背目呲尽裂骂人,希望能骂走所有有能力的人,好混口饭吃。但这种愿望不但渺小,而且是根本不可能的!!!



    估计汪 海 洋最挣钱的一次就是骗取周口市魏德钊同志(原周口市印章厂厂长)的东西了:三枚金印章、一本价值连城的古书。



    可证明汪 海 洋被劳改单位:开封市五一路派出所

    可证明汪 海 洋被起诉单位:郑州金水区柳林法院

    可证明汪 海 洋恶意诉讼单位:河南金博大律师所

    可证明汪 海 洋不断骂人单位:大河网

    可证明汪 海 洋被骗大河网友: 泌阳老曹、周口现代、周口残疾人、天问、黑脸大眼、车骑将军、农家女等近百人。

    可证明汪 海 洋被骂大河网友:一叶方舟、zxb2007、时间007、王文杰、王一川(大河网新闻中心记者)、中原侠客、海蓝蓝、大河采风等

    这是国家重点新闻网站《大河网》网友们对汪 海 洋的评价:

    一叶方舟:发表于 2009-1-31 03:57

    你相信汪 海 洋能真正的打击骗子吗?他有哪个能力吗?

    骂骂人,在论坛捣乱他可以.,除此之外,哈哈哈~!相信他也是一事无成.

    即便是有个别的案子他粘上了,那也是板上定钉的事情,他能把整个案件的功劳算在他头上吗?

    zxb2007:发表于 2009-2-5 21:06

    这样的卑鄙无耻小人还不封IP???!!!

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    Meghan and Mary McVey at their home during Joe Klein's annual road trip in Toledo, http://www.timberlandbootsdiscount.com/ Timberland Shoes, Ohio, http://www.timberlandproboot.com/ http://www.timberlandbootswomen.com/ Timberland Hiking Shoes, on Saturday, http://www.cheaptimberlandonsale.com/ http://www.timberlandproboot.com/ Timberland Hiking Shoes, June 16, 2012.freely.” (I might add that in the course of three road trips I’d rarely met people willing to be so honest about the difficulty of being an informed citizen in a post-industrial society, in the information age, http://www.cheaptimberlandproboots.com/ http://www.timberlandproboot.com/ Timberland Boots, http://www.cheaptimberlandonsale.com/ Timberland Boots, in a globalized world. This is an absolutely crucial problem, http://www.timberlandproboot.com/ Timberland Shoes, fundamental to the ability of our democracy to survive. And I’m really grateful to Meghan and Mary’s friends for raising it.)

    We went outside to take a photo of Meghan and Mary–and I hope they’ll keep it with their wedding photos. Then we drove Danny, truly a great traveling companion, to the Detroit airport…and went on to our next town meeting in Brighton, http://www.cheaptimberlandonsale.com/ Timberland Hiking Shoes, Michigan.

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    Foreign cash/share = $7.7 (87% of $8.9)

    Foreign cash/share, http://www.timberlandbootsdiscount.com/ http://www.cheaptimberlandonsale.com/ Timberland Shoes, net of the taxes = $5 (after applying a tax rate of 35% to $7.7)

    Domestic Cash/share = $1.2 (13% of $8.9)

    Total cash/share to become available domestically, http://www.cheaptimberlandproboots.com/ Timberland Hiking Shoes, http://www.timberlandbootsdiscount.com/ http://www.cheaptimberlandonsale.com/ Timberland Hiking Shoes, after repatriation, http://www.timberlandproboot.com/ http://www.cheaptimberlandproboots.com/ Timberland Boots, http://www.timberlandproboot.com/ Timberland Boots, net of the taxes = $6.2 ($5 + $1.2)

    Note: Cisco has a long-term debt of $16.2 billion. Instead of the cash/share for this exercise, I could opt to use the net cash/share by taking its debt into consideration, http://www.timberlandbootswomen.com/ Timberland Shoes. The reason, I'm ignoring the debt for now, http://www.cheaptimberlandproboots.com/ http://www.cheaptimberlandproboots.com/ Timberland Hiking Shoes, is because with a massive free cash flow run rate of $9 billion/year, Cisco can easily pay off the debt very quickly, http://www.timberlandbootswomen.com/ http://www.timberlandbootswomen.com/ Timberland Boots, if it chooses to do so.

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    One way to value a business is by estimating how much cash flow it is going to generate in the future. So, http://www.timberlandbootsdiscount.com/ Timberland Boots, I did a reverse Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) analysis to essentially see what all was needed to justify a price of $10, http://www.timberlandproboot.com/ http://www.cheaptimberlandproboots.com/ Timberland Shoes.

    What I find is that the only way such a price for Cisco is justified is when I make the following ridiculous assumptions:

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